Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Sc/R Engine Cooling Fan Info Wanted

After this detail has been gone over it will be added to Concourse And Minutia areas ..
Have a guy currently restoring his car , so this info is wanted as soon as possible .

Q: I was wondering if anyone has pictures of the original fan and what the part number is. I just spoke with Jim Mckee and he claims the fan had 3 rivets but I see Gordy's picture with 4. Were there two fans? Ours has 4 so I am wondering if this was a replacement part.

We are having a heck of time getting the fan shroud to fit properly so I was wondering if there are any pictures of an original car taken from the back of the engine compartment so we can see if there is something we are missing.(end of quote)

Any photo's and description on this will help very much. Also note that I trust Jim's and Gordy's info as excellent . And we will run this "up the flag pole for completeness "


AMC parts book show 319-5201 use 3197749 to be the correct part numbers for a 69 7 bladed flex fan.
Andre " A.J." Jacobs,
web page http://southtexasamc.tripod.com/
(830)-980-3165 ,
mhtml:%7B3B0BF672-CD36-49D1-A5D6-193B12A94052%7Dmid://00000023/!x-usc:mailto:akjamc@juno.com Owner & Proprietor, South Texas AMC

Here just in is more info from Mark:

quote:Hi Bob,
I saw the post on your blog about a gentlemen looking for a picture of the fan and what the part number is. Attached is a picture I had taken of mine which I am quite sure is original. You can zoom in on the part number which can be seen on two of the blades (the pic has enough resolution to see the stamped number). The part number on the fan is ‘3195201’ It has four rivets.
Feel free to post this picture on your blog.

Thanks and hope this helps,

Another note from Mark:
Hi Bob,
I’ll have to check next time I am at my building where my car is. I just started looking at my pictures last night and had one of the fan from the backside…so I figured I would send it. You may be on to something about more than one fan being on the cars. It wouldn’t surprise me at all. My car is the ninth one on the survivor list so if there is more than one fan we could possibly link them to production – if that has anything to do with it…but probably not. They probably used what ever was available as the cars rolled off the line.

Is your fan (3197749) a four rivet unit? Also, there should be a date code on it somewhere. I’ll have to look at mine close for the date code. This should help determine what could have come on the SC’s.

Mark Wanchisen

Here is Marks photo , his car is quite early , and I hope to get more info on the cars history .
As this helps very much to unravel the cars story...

Underhood photo courtesy Of Mark Wanchisen




Jim McKee writes:
Hi Bob.
The AMC 68 to 72 parts book lists 319 5201 as the correct SC/Rambler fan which is American V-8 Heavy Duty cooling. All SC/Ramblers have heavy duty cooling. Many of these fans have no part number on them.
These fans have 3 rivets and the blades are 5 7/8" long. This information is from note 2-17 for the 319 5201 fan. My original high serial number SC/Rambler has this fan. I do not know what the superceded fan number 319-7749 looks like.
Jim McKee

Jim here is the 319-7749 fan . I'll try to photo the numbers later



Thursday, March 26, 2009

Sc Tach wire details (photo's)

Here are photo's of Mike Lewis's SC tach wire routing ...







Tuesday, March 3, 2009

Interesting SC/R production Date info.


Hopefully of interest to the "A" vs "B" debate - I offer the following info. I have two (2) SC/R's - one (1) - "B" and one (1) "A". The "A" car info is for the most part straight forward - VIN - 269105 - Body Tag - E086308 (4/4/69 - 4/12/69). The "B" car VIN is 305395 - or very close to the last car in your data base - Bill. More interesting - is the Body Tag build info - E111152 (6/6/69 - 6/14/69). While the "A" car is a one owner - never restored car I purchased from the original owner (I even have the original insurance binder info) - the "B" car had at least two other owners. During the body redo on the "B" car there was no evidence of it being originally an "A" scheme. It was represented to me at the time of purchase as an original "B" scheme car. Anyway - this info seems to confirm SC/R production in June of 69. If the "B" is correct - it also demonstrates - "B" production late in the run. I am very interested in seeing if there are any Body Tags latter than mine. Thanks - John J.

theamcguy said...

Looking over all of my VIN data it appears that SC/R production ended somewhere between 6-15 June 1969.
Interesting is that B schemes seem to sprinkled throughout the run and there were several built between 6-14 June.
Also I stick by my observation that B schemes comprised only 20% of the SC/Rambler production (around 300 cars) and not the 33% that is generally thought.
My VIN list is as random a sample as possible and it shows only 20% B schemes.

Bob said:
Hey guys ,
I'll put this info in another post with similar data . after it has been up awhile ...
Thank you for your time


Monday, March 2, 2009

New Restoration question . OEM tach wire routing

Would like to help a guy out who is putting their Sc/R together .Who needs/wants to know if anyone has photo's and description about the factory OEM wiring and wire routing in the engine compartment etc ..

Would like to post this info here and meld it into concourse/minuitia areas ..

Thank you
e-mail me or comment here on the blog if would like to help

Sc/Rambler Throttle cable Minuitia/Concourse info


This is a current e-bay auction , that has details of the throttle cable .
From what I've been hearing this is a one year item only installed in the OEM factory 1969 SC/Rambler .

As seen in the car craft 1969 issue . They did a mock up of a cable that appears to not have fit well . Notice the return spring ...What is that ?? Obviously was not safe .
So a special cable was put in the car ...

here is the cable courtesy of Mike Lewis .(Anyone that has more to add , please do)

Car Craft picture . This car is believed the earliest "registered" car yet known .
Possibly the the car H.L. Shahan was given for his work he did for Hurst and AMC ..